I probably won't get time to watch this for at least another week. Feel free to start without me.
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- Immediate Reactions
- Episode 1
- Episode 2
- Episode 3
- Episode 4
- Episode 5
- Episode 6
- Episode 7
- Episode 8
- Episode 9
- Episode 10
- Episode 11
- Episode 12
- Episode 13
- Final Thoughts
| EPISODE 1 | |
|---|---|
| 04:44 | Shit, I'm already struggling to remember what happened last season. Hopefully it comes back to me. |
| 05:28 | I do remember wanting to see more of Chang (Chen?). That little exchange was nice. |
| 11:43 | So, Crazy Eyes is going to be the voice of reason in this relationship? |
| 12:50 | I hope this hitman bloke's actually dead. I feel like it would be too cliché otherwise. |
| 13:18 | First of all, why do prison uniforms have pockets? Second, nice touch with the bloke wanting a topless trophy shot. |
| 13:31 | Bill Cosby jokes? If they make things too topical, people can't help but wonder what sort of time-frame this show takes in. I have enough time-compression issues with Game Of Thrones, thank you very much. |
| 16:35 | Who's this redhead woman with the southern accent that's suddenly shown up? Should I recognise her? |
| 18:15 | Guessing Piscatella's going to be an important character later on. |
| 20:21 | Wait; that bloke who pinched Morello's veil, was he the one that raped Doggett? |
| 21:52 | I really appreciate Cindy's little monologue on racism. |
| 22:39 | A mobile phone between my tits, I can see; a bunch of keys up my twat, not so much. Probably better than a whole shoe though. |
| 25:26 | Something happened between this girl and Chapman at the end of last season, didn't it? I remember … something. |
| 27:57 | The Crazy-girl romance ended a lot sooner than I thought it would. |
| 29:07 | Oh, the redhead woman was off telly or something, wasn't she? Like a celebrity chef or something? |
| 34:35 | Is this bloke the warden? … Hey, I wonder if Chapman's family will ever be heard from again? |
| 40:25 | Whoa, that didn't look like a particularly small bunch of keys either. Must've been fun walkin' around with them in there all day. |
| 43:37 | Okay, I take it back, the hitman bloke being alive COULD be interesting. Just don't mess it up, show. |
| 45:22 | Well done, show. Now we've got a situation where Chapman is prancing around like a hard cunt while Alex is actually killing people. |
| 52:19 | Nice dismemberment montage. Just gruesome enough to be effective without being gratuitous. Dunno about the choice of music though. That might have been a bit gratuitous. |
| END | Okay, it felt less like the beginning of a new season and more like a mopping-up of stuff from the last season. I guess it wasn't a terrible start though. |
| EPISODE 2 | |
| 09:32 | Who's Sophia Burset? I feel like I should recognise that name. Oh, was that the heroin addict? |
| 10:45 | That idea she has about gaining power by being in the majority is going to bite her in the arse later. Tribalism rarely works that way. |
| 13:36 | Either they've got an Aussie on staff or one of the writers has discovered the word "twat". They're slipping it in everywhere now. |
| 14:43 | No, Sophia wasn't the junkie. Shit, I'm drawing a blank. |
| 17:03 | Fatties, Nabraskans, or anyone with too much hair? I think that went right over my head. |
| 20:57 | The young Ruiz looks kind of uncanny—there's something wrong with her but I can't figure out what it is. She's still not as bad as the young Doggett though. |
| 23:43 | Wow, the Chapman bubble has burst suddenly and unexpectedly. |
| 32:13 | Taking the piss out of people who come from the next island over. It's all fun and games until suddenly it's not. |
| 35:39 | Oh right, Sophia was the transsexual. To be honest, I didn't even notice she was missing. My memory is falling apart. |
| 38:16 | Oh no, there's that Chapman bubble, bigger and more full of shit than ever. Actually, this is getting weird and kind of pathetic now. |
| 44:33 | Oh, Kaputo; how I love the tale of a man fighting for his soul. |
| END | Are we setting up Chapman vs Ruiz? My money would be on Ruiz if Chapman wasn't the main character. I'm also keen to see where Alex's story goes next. Can't believe her old boss is just going to give up on her. |
| EPISODE 3 | |
| 07:16 | I'm digging the pissing contest between the two middle-aged alpha-women; with the other one watching from the sidelines. |
| 19:22 | Yep, the Red/Judy feud is totally what's keeping me going at this point. "Ask the Germans in Wintertime". Nice. |
| 21:24 | I don't remember the names of either of the pocket-sized lesbian girls, but given the way they're playing things up, their relationship's obviously about to go tits up. Are we undoing all of our progress from the end of last season? |
| 22:37 | Sex offender with a moustache. Did I mention something about clichés before? |
| 24:31 | The bloke put on the sex-offender registry for having sex on a public beach with his girlfriend—this is based on a real case. There's also been people put on the registry for public urination. |
| 27:55 | Oh Kaputo, the world is getting ready to shit on you again; you just can't see it yet. |
| 28:55 | Planting a flag on the moon doesn't mean you own it—I thought a Russian would appreciate that. Whoever's writing this particular plot thread needs a pay rise. |
| 30:20 | Chapman might be about to have her business taken out from under her. This plot thread is picking up steam faster than I expected. Then again, there are only 13 episodes, so they can't dally that much. |
| 31:13 | Talking shit out of a paper arsehole—I'll have to remember that one. |
| 33:38 | Poussey & Soso. That's the names of the tiny lesbians. |
| 41:33 | Okay, so the Kaputo story-line is getting pretty compelling to—even if I already feel like I know how it ends (it's Kaputo, after all). The journey is more important than the destination, right? |
| 46:12 | The in-person phone-sex session was the first time I've properly laughed this season. Took a while, but it was worth it. |
| 49:47 | A little grounding and perspective from Alex there. My guess is we're not going to be seeing too much more from her for a while. Whatever happens next with her is going to be a surprise. |
| 52:44 | The Poussey/Soso relationship survives … for now. Glad to see they're not demolishing everything … just yet. |
| 55:32 | Well, I was right about the next thing with Alex being a surprise; it just didn't take as long as I was expecting. |
| END | I don't think there's anything specifically wrong with season 4 so far, but it does seem to be lacking a little punch … or something. Maybe it's because I'm coming straight off Game Of Thrones. I dunno. Anyway, it's not like I'm going to stop watching. … So, forward … |
| EPISODE 4 | |
| 02:39 | Well, here's Sophia. I can't even remember what she did to get into SHU. She was feuding with the Latinas at one point, but I thought they got over that. |
| 07:54 | Healey's mum has a mental illness that only women get. Post-natal psychosis? What'd they do to her? |
| 12:17 | Wouldn't it be great if Red found a way to frame Judy for the hitman's murder? Huh? Wouldn't it? I feel a little giddy. |
| 24:21 | The puppets and the woman setting the bishop on fire? What fuckin' movie did they see? What time period is this flashback set in? |
| 25:03 | Nuh, can't read the movie poster behind him. |
| 43:22 | At some point Healey is going to have to commit suicide. In fact, I'm kinda surprised it hasn't happened already. |
| 45:34 | Oh, that was a good scene with Doggett & the guard. Best scene of the season so far. |
| 48:32 | Frieda, Red, Lolly & Alex. It seems like it should be the "B" plot, but they're totally stealing the show. |
| 49:40 | Ah, the power-dynamics of money & fame spelled out in one sentence. Nice. |
| 54:14 | Hey it's the junkie … and I finally remember that her name's Nikki. |
| END | Okay, now I feel like things are starting to pick up. It took 4 episodes, but I'm finally getting into it properly. Here's a thought: New guards, new inmates & a subplot set in maximum security; the show must be doing alright if they can afford all that. Also, I might just start referring to Chapman as "The Paper Arsehole" from now on. |
| EPISODE 5 | |
| 02:46 | At first, I thought it was strange that the prison was limiting the supply of menstrual pads, when they were the one thing there seemed to be an abundance of earlier. But then I remembered, it's a private prison now. |
| 04:31 | Kaputo looks like he uses a 15 year old phone. |
| 07:50 | Ah, drunk girls trying to blow out sparklers. We've all seen that at parties and family get-togethers, haven't we? |
| 10:33 | "It's like Jessica, but ethnic". I'm tempted to start calling myself Yalex. Hmmm, on second thought, that sounds too much like a Russian search engine, or something. |
| 12:31 | So, is the shower-pooper a new or established character? |
| 13:25 | From what I've been told, this prison convention shit isn't far fetched at all. I've spoken to people who set these things up for a living. |
| 16:16 | This password entry screen on the other hand, is total bullshit. |
| 19:27 | "A head toss is only 2 clicks away from a blowie". I'll have to remember that. Don't wanna give anyone the wrong impression. |
| 20:11 | Has anyone else ever heard the phrase "on fleek" before? Does it sound as ridiculous to you as it does to me? |
| 23:39 | Brilliant way to end the exchange between the apparently gay prison ogre and The Paper Arsehole. |
| 24:55 | Is Kaputo getting sucked in by the corporate nonsense, or does he smell the bullshit? |
| 31:04 | So, How many clicks from a blowie is Kaputo right now? |
| 39:18 | Did she keep that old bloke's driver's license? |
| 46:52 | So, The Paper Arsehole is flirting with white-power now. Fantastic. I was wondering how low they were going to take her. |
| 53:59 | Could Kaputo be getting mixed up with a woman worse than Fig? Will we get a scene where he turns to Fig as a kind of moral compass? Remember how great a villain Fig was? |
| 55:18 | From dog-whistling to outright racism in under 30 seconds. The skinhead with the neck tattoo was a nice touch too. |
| END | I like where this is going. |
| EPISODE 6 | |
| 04:28 | Who's sending Loosecheque hate mail? |
| 06:56 | Really pleased to see Nikki's not out of the show. And still as charming as ever. |
| 12:17 | Kaputo's girlfriend steals his ideas and ditches him. I'm calling it now. |
| 13:16 | Border-niggers, huh? Gonna have to put that one up there with sand-niggers. |
| 14:00 | So now TPA (Chapman: The Paper Arsehole) is losing everything—except her white-supremacy support group. |
| 26:57 | Y'know, I didn't care for TPA that much in the earlier seasons, but the more loathsome & despicable she becomes, the more I'm warming up to her. |
| 30:45 | A few more familiar faces down at max. Hey, remember the voodoo lady with the head-scarf? |
| 33:44 | I think if I ever reached a point in my life where I had to haggle for tampons—that might be the lowest point. |
| 37:12 | I sense the shower-pooper about to strike … |
| 41:45 | Did she paper-cut herself to death with the magazine? |
| 44:01 | Have I mentioned that Poussey's a great actress? Not yet this season? Oh well, might as well get it out of the way now. |
| 50:16 | Tastee negotiates peace in the middle east. |
| 56:56 | No! Nikki! No! |
| END | The Paper Arsehole might be about to get shredded. It's taken half a season, but I'm now fully invested. Well done, show. Just don't fuck it up. |
| EPISODE 7 | |
| 05:05 | Lolly gets a back story. Should be interesting. |
| 11:41 | Red really does care for her girls. |
| 19:39 | Love the white-power workout scene. Love Nikki's reaction to it too. |
| 34:11 | Thank you, detective Nikki. |
| 37:43 | Yep, Kaputo's girlfriend is worse than Fig. So, the question is: Does Kaputo choose the woman or his soul? |
| 46:52 | Loving the new Nikki: Straight to the point, maximum info, no bullshit. |
| 55:12 | Well, this looks bad, but something tells me they're not killing of TPA. So, the only question is, how does she escape? |
| END | Okay, that ended in an interesting place, and not where I expected. |
| EPISODE 8 | |
| 12:19 | "It's not cheating if there's no dick". Oh, Nikki. |
| 22:14 | For a second I thought she was microwaving a can, but I think it's a cardboard cup. |
| 23:51 | Fixing machinery is a lesbian superpower that straight women don't possess. Classic Doggett. |
| 26:48 | Well, haven't the mother/daughter roles reversed? |
| 36:26 | I did ask how low they were willing to take TPA. Crack addiction's getting down there if they take it all the way. Also, I've never been into crack, but that shit seemed to kick in pretty bloody quickly. |
| 38:33 | Love the conversation on travelling back in time to meet Hitler. |
| 49:29 | Hey, remember when Doggett was the scariest thing on this show? We've come a long way since then, haven't we. |
| 52:28 | Jesus Christ, was that salt? What the fuck is wrong with this woman of Kaputo's. |
| 55:52 | And another sliver of Kaputo's humanity dies. |
| END | Misery and hopelessness. Just what a prison drama should be. Carry on. |
| EPISODE 9 | |
| 06:24 | I've actually been waiting for a Blanca back-story since almost season 1. If I remember right, she was the woman doing the sexting. |
| 10:54 | So, has red taken TPA & Alex under her wing now? Are they officially "her girls"? Or are they just hanging out? |
| 27:48 | Ooh, good scene with Doggett & Boo. |
| 40:42 | "Daughters. They're the fuckin' worst". Amen, sister. |
| 47:52 | And I thought Alex was hardcore walking around with a bunch of keys in her twat. The nun's got a phone? |
| END | Go Blanca! |
| EPISODE 10 | |
| 35:09 | Holy shit, Kaputo's not as far gone as I thought he was. |
| END | Once again, it seems the more I get into a show, the fewer notes I take. Expect one word sentences and crude pictographs by the end. The crazy girl sex scene was well done, but the story-line with the prison guards is stealing the show at the moment. As soon as they started excavating, it seemed obvious that they were gonna uncover the body, but I'm still interested to see where this goes. Only three episodes left. |
| EPISODE 11 | |
| 41:00 | A great showing from Red. … But will she break? |
| END | Wow. Top episode. Almost collected on my prediction of a Healey suicide … but not quite. I guess that's the end of Lolly. Now, how do they resolve this guard situation in the next 2hrs. … Or do they? |
| EPISODE 12 | |
| 05:52 | There's nothing like a common threat to bring enemies together. |
| 08:42 | Wouldn't it be a mindfuck if Poussey & Soso actually used Lolly's time machine to successfully travel back in time? |
| 16:57 | And life finds a way to fuck Kaputo again. Not that I think it's finished fucking him in this season—not by a long shot. |
| 31:27 | Beautiful scene with Kaputo telling Bailey to get out while he can. No idea where this is going now. Having a sit-in that actually works seems kinda piss-weak. Surely there'd have to be some sort of plot twist. |
| 52:08 | I claim this scene with Fig as a victory for my precognitive abilities. Christ, at this point I have to take whatever I can get. Also, I'm surprised by how much I missed Fig. |
| 58:15 | Shouldn't someone try to resuscitate Poussey? She's only been out for a couple of minutes. |
| END | Does this mean no more Poussey? If so, the show's losing one of its best performers. Maybe she's been picked up for something else. |
| EPISODE 13 | |
| 14:32 | The Afghanistan-war-story car ride was magnificent. Do you think it's going to be relevant that they're showing Bailey's house? |
| END | Dunno how I feel about the ending. Don't really appreciate those sort of cliffhangers; especially since I'm going to have to wait twelve months for a resolution. Of course, one would think, if she was going to pull the trigger, they would have ended with the gunshot; which only adds extra frustration, by making the cliffhanger also seem kinda pointless. All-in-all, I reckon this one felt weaker than the previous two. |
| FINAL THOUGHTS | |
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It's funny how this show has changed over the course of four seasons. In the beginning, everyone and everything in the prison felt threatening. Remember when Crazy-Eyes was terrifying? The clichéd big, black, psycho, lesbo who took a fancy to our soft, white, protagonist on the first day. And then there was Red, and then Doggett. See, now that we know these people, who—for the most part—aren't total monsters, Lichfield's started to feel a lot safer. As a result, I've noticed two big changes in the story dynamics: First of all—since the prisoners themselves now feel like a (semi-)functional community of well-rounded characters who aren't going to murder each other for fun—we've had to externalise the threat. Now the biggest and clearest danger faced by our band of lovable misfits comes from the way outsiders perceive them. We see this with the new prison guards, most of whom think they can do anything they want to the inmates, because they're just a bunch of criminal scumbags. Same thing with the prison administration, who view everything through a prism of spreadsheets and PR spin—when asked about prisoner treatment, their practised response was always along the lines of "we're running a prison, not a luxury hotel". The implication in both instances is that these people deserve anything and everything that happens to them, because they're no longer really people. I don't know how much this change has been precipitated by planning and how much by necessity, but I'm very pleased they've gone in this direction. It's exactly where I wanted the show to go. … Oh, and the cherry on top was celebrity inmate Judy King—who makes sure nobody overlooks the point, by providing us with a clear means of comparison. The second big change I've noticed is that a persistent feeling of misery and hopelessness has crept in. With (literally) nowhere to go, a lot of the characters have started moving in circles. They get together, break up, then get back together again. They have the same disagreements over and over. There's little room for growth or improvement. Yes there are small victories and temporary highs, but on average, everyone seems to be trending towards decline. Even the degree to which some of these people may be beyond change is crystallising. Will Nikki ever be able to give up heroin? What about Morello—remember what she said about watching herself fuck up her own life in exactly the same way again, but not being able to stop? Even for the ones who aren't that badly broken, what chance do they have of reform? Does anybody seriously think that Diaz Sr isn't going to end up back inside? And as for the ones who do have a fighting chance, well, look what happened to Poussey. The show has started to feel like a never-ending downward spiral; and while I don't know how well that's going to work from a story perspective, I do appreciate them doing it. Overall, I think the season got off to a slow start, got really, really good, but then ended on a bit of a flat note. I like a lot of the directional changes they've made, but I'm not 100% sold on the execution—more like 90%. I'll give it an A- | |
11 comments :
I'm gonna. DIdn't finish Season 3 so am going back to see where I left off, have heard people are raving about S4 so want to watch. Am on holidays now but mad with writing deadliney things ARGH. Will come back when I've watched some.
Sounds good. Looking forward to it, Melbs.
When's the second book due out?
Phew here I am.
Have watched the first 3 episodes of S4 and read your above comments (for those eps)
I'm enjoying it, I think it's really upped the ante from S3 where it fell really flat. Princess isn't watching cause she went off the dialogue. I'm happy to go with it. Found Episode 1 really good in setting up some conflict, upping the stakes for people esp Alex. I really love Lolly, think she's so funny and unpredictable and mad. Not sure what they're doing with Sophia but I saw the first line of your Ep 4 comment so we see her in the next episode (for me). The killing of the hitman was a surprise and the cutting him up was pretty awesome. Chapman is shitting me but not as much as last season. And yes, where are her family? I guess her husband and friend and everyone else are just gone now? Maybe they'll come back later but I used to enjoy the out of prison scenes. I'm also in two minds about the flashbacks (like you, I was confused but it was because they used the same actress, trying to make her look young. Did they give her bad skin? I don't get it. In those scenes with her father the Dominican gangsta and then with the boxer whose drugs she grabbed. All a bit unlikely.)
Second book I'm still working on. But almost done! Hoping for first half of next year. The characters you will recognise cause you read it, but it's completely reimagined. And better.
Well, I'm glad to hear the reimagined version is better and not worse. That's what you want to be aiming for.
The season really picked up for me as it went on. Chapman even became kinda likable. And yes, remember when her fiancé & best mate where like main characters in the show?
OK I've finished now. The season (for me) started well, then dipped a tad, then improved again. I thought it was a huge improvement on last season. I ended up really enjoying it, engaged and for the most part enjoying. I haven't read the rest of your comments but will come back, but wanted to say I've finished. Oh fuck, I'll read them now, or the last episode's anyway...
Read your last couple of notes and final summation. I agree, I do remember how sinister they all were, how scary Suzanne was... how that scene where they were having the party and everything kind of got a bit out of control, with the dancing and Boo and we were seeing it from Chapman's perspective, and I was I guess proxying into her and imagining how threatened and confronted I'd feel.
I liked her trying to be tough and then it backfiring, and the moment when she realises re the white power movement, and that they think she's getting it going, that was well done and funny and poignant. But they are starting to go in circles, her and Alex now again with their hands down each other's pants. I was really sad when Poussey died, BUT I have noticed a somewhat heavy-handed didactic 'messaging' going on, that's not subtle. I find it super hard to believe that these women would be reading as they do, and so on top of news and political/cultural movements. I love that they are, but find it stretches credibility? Have we talked about this? So when Tasty was it gave her Black Lives Matter speech I felt it clumsy. And Poussey dying in the way she did was a replication of what has happened. I'm not sure why this bothers me and I need to think about it a bit more.
I hated the new guards, which was the point. That fucking psycho with his manipulations and mind games, the sadist, I felt so scared for them, and when they started to realise the threat he poses... and to mobilise as one, it was a good moment, but failed. Caputo I really liked, I loved seeing him try to be good and ethical and he really cares about them, and his girlfriend is so awful, making Figg or whatever her name was look good in comparison (and did you catch the subtly referenced interaction when he goes into Figg's house, just to talk, and you know they're going to fuck cause she knows it and it will happen but we don't see it, and then later when he's doing the press conference or the video after Poussey's death, someone is doing makeup and talks about teeth marks on his ear lobe or neck and his gf says something but it's passed over... i liked that moment.)
What do you mean about the afghanistan car ride scene... I don't remember that??
Yes, they're definitely going in circles and I think it's the right thing to do (as I noted this earlier) but it's going to make it awfully difficult to keep the story compelling.
I also made a comment about how if they keep referencing current events it's going to cause time-dislocation problems. And you're right, when they start wading into present-day controversy, they run the risk of coming off as clumsily preachy. The last thing you want is to feel the finger of the writer wagging in your face.
As for the guards, yeah, we needed them to be bastards. The Afghanistan car ride scene was when that big fat slob was driving Bailey home after Poussey died, and he was telling his war stories. About how they would get so bored and frustrated and angry at the Afghans that they would sometimes rape/torture/murder civilians as a release. The way he tells the story, you can see that his brain had completely stopped viewing them as human and that was also how he saw the inmates. It reminded me of the stories I've heard from war vets for most of my life. I like that it didn't put war veterans on a pedestal and make them seem like saints.
I also noticed the whole thing with Figg and the teeth marks and whatnot, but by that point, I was too into the show and wasn't taking very good notes anymore. I think Kaputo is a fantastic asset for the show. I hope they don't get rid of him.
Hi, so I chain-watched the second half of S3 and S4 in the last two weeks. I have the theme song stuck in my head, I've heard it so much.
Got lost halfway through S3 - it got really flat, but I did love the scene at the end where they were all in the lake, it was a great way to end the season.
Chapman was such an idiot I really disliked her when she sent Ruby Rose to Max. But of course, the whole thing was always going to backfire on her, wasn't it? They had to do that to her (the brand) to make the audience feel sorry for her, but it was all so fucked up. Also I don't understand what the big deal was with Alex naming that dead guy, or trying to. What would have been the problem with that?
I don't want to dissect the whole thing - was talking about it a lot with a coworker last night, but oh I was loving the lovely little romance between SoSo and Poussey. When that poor innocent Bailey killed her, I cried so hard (especially where Norma was singing to SoSo).
I loved Kaputo this season. I loved that he was hate-fucking that bitch then hooked up with an even worse corporate whore. I hope Healy comes back, but I think he thinks he's more broken than he is.
I think the fact that Healy didn't kill himself suggests that he's going to be around in the future.
There was a big deal with Alex & Lolly killing that bloke. Don't remember there being a problem with them naming him. Can you expand?
And I'm completely with you on the theme music. Had it stuck in my head for about 6 months after seeing season 1.
In the final ep Alex and Piper are trying to find all the notes Alex had left with the hitman's name on it. I don't see the deal. Unless they can tie him to Alex, and even then, since they think Lolly did it, who cares.
Oh, right, I'd forgotten about the little bits of paper.
I think my theory was that they were afraid of a proper—thorough—murder investigation by police. If they tied him to Koobra, that would connect him back to Alex. If they had her handwriting on file, bingo.
In hindsight, they probably just needed a bit of extra drama for the episode. If I recall right, that little thread never actually went anywhere.
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